The Jubb Atlantic

The Jubb Atlantic

A New Record Run ?

26/9/2020 Revised 20/4/2021.


The Gauge 2 Jubb Atlantic simmering quietly after a possible record run, April, 2021.




 


This Gauge 2 locomotive was acquired from Osbourne Antiques in Rushden, Northants in 2019 by courtesy of Jeremy Viewing. Osbourne recalled acquiring it in turn from a collector on the South Coast who had owned it for about 50 years, back to WW2, who said that it was by Jubb. Is it seen here running on a temporary Gauge 2 track at Welton, Northants, in May, 2020. 

 

Mr FW Jubb was a keen model railway enthusiast in the years before the Great War and had produced models for his 'Greystones' Gauge 2 model railway, built in an upstairs bedroom in his house in Sheffield. After the war, he went into business producing mostly ‘O’ gauge rolling stock and accessories under the ‘JLS’ (Jubb Ltd Sheffield).

 

In 2020, a chance observation of an index page from of Henry Greenly’s monthly magazine “Models, Locomotives and Railways” appearing on the Brighton Model Museum Website led to a fascinating discovery: there was an article in the September 1910 edition entitled “Mr F. W. Jubb’s “Atlantic” Model”. Eventually a full set of these very rare magazines was acquired and the Sept. 1910 edition did indeed contain an article about a Gauge 2 Atlantic Model, strikingly similar to the one acquired from Osbournes. But was it the same one?

 

Here is the article:


 


All of the dimensions given in the article tally, but there are differences: the surviving loco has a Belpaire firebox, the buffers are a different style, and there are other minor discrepancies. At least now we knew for sure that the model was indeed a Jubb, and so it rested until a good friend in Pennsylvania, Murray Wilson, discovered another Jubb article in the July 1911 edition describing Mr Jubb’s second Atlantic. And here it is:

 

 


This time, there was no doubt - this is the same loco, still in working order 110 years after it was built to operate on Jubb’s ‘Greystones’ model railway in Sheffield, England. It’s ‘freelance’, as most model locos were at the time, and draws on Great Central practice. The boiler is huge, even for Gauge 2, because engine driven water pumps were unheard of and there’s no tender tank or handpump. So the run time is purely dictated by the volume of water in the boiler at starting.

 

(About Gauge 2. Model railway gauges were defined by Henry Greenly at the beginning of the 20th century as Gauges ‘0, ‘1’, ‘2’, and ‘3’. All of these survive to the present day, with ‘0’ Gauge being more popular than ever and Gauges ‘1’ and ‘3’ having strong followings. But not Gauge 2, which disappeared commercially after the First World War and today is relegated to collectors shelves, the last known track being torn up in the 1960’s. So this small test track is the only one known to exist anywhere in the world. For now).

 

But for the engine to have survived for so long in such excellent condition begs a series of questions, principal amongst which is “did it actually work?”. It was clear that it had worked, because there were signs of obvious wear including a loose driving wheel which had been re-pinned to the axle more than once, but later we discovered direct evidence that it not only worked, but worked well.


The engine is very unusual amongst early models in having been handed down to us complete with the meths burner, even though the asbestos wicks had been lost. This was a great advantage in getting the model to run, because usually burners have to be re-created by guesswork and lots of trial and error. The first observation was that there’s no automatic meths regulation, or ‘chicken feed’, and fuel from the huge tender tank simply drips into a sump beneath the footplate. The fuel is regulated by a simple plug cock in the tender, mounted in such a way that it can't be removed for maintenance. Over the years this has become so loose that vibration would cause it to full on, leading to some spectacular flare-ups, several times melting the pressure gauge connection! (The gauge was missing when the loco was acquired, so it is modern ones that have been sacrificed here!).
How Mr Jubb managed with his indoor railway in an upstairs bedroom without setting the house on fire we’ll never know.


A puzzle as that there was no loco to tender coupling or meths feed pipe to the open sump under the cab. A newly made pipe was made to lead down into the burner and this did hold engine and tender together, but a stronger coupling was made using attachments that Mr Jubb had presumably intended to use. The mystery of why the coupling was missing until we came across yet another item in 'Models', a letter from Mr Jubb explaining his new technique for coupling engine and tender using the feed pipe alone! Hmmm...


Initially we experimented with ceramic rope wicks to try to emulate the original asbestos (It's a pity that many early locos have been stripped of asbestos before modern equivalents could be develped) but it turned out that the soft stringy material would not stay in shape and greatly added to the flaring problem, so much that at one point thought was given to abandoning the project because of the fire risk. However, successful wicks were finally made from rolled up stainless mesh which stays in shape, doesn't burn and gives sufficient heat to emulate the original asbestos.


 


 

Ceramic and Stainless Mesh wicks. Note the quick release pin - a feature provided for by Mr Jubb, but not actually installed - he screwed the burner, with it's colossal header tank, directly to the loco!


A few items, like piston and gland packing, needed attention before the fire  was lit for the first time. And then came the moment. And yes, it did run. In the beginning, the huge Smithies boiler ran out of water long before the equally huge (1/2 pint!) tender meths tank and performance was lack lustre. But I've been through this before with the Carson Precursor and know that there comes a critical point where there are more things in favour than not, and the model suddenly transforms from a sluggard to a Star! And so it was with the Jubb Atlantic. (Operator skill level is just one of those factors!!)


And the exhaust note is absolutely wonderful. So there we have it: a 110 year old model locomotive, almost as pristine as when it left Mr Jubb’s workshop, still doing what it was built to do.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wkjdeufup91lfe7/V_20200529_134347_vHDR_Auto.mp4?dl=0

 

Later, we even discovered an actual test of it’s performance, described in the Dec 1912 edition of 'Models': (Note that the writer, almost certainly Greenly, refers to Mr Jubb's engine "illustrated in the July last edition". That's our engine!). Here, Greenly decribes the performance as 'Record' runs.


 

The 'commercially produced' G.N.R. Atlantic on Mr Payne's railway might have been a Bassett Lowke product, illustrated in their 1911 catalogue. I've yet to see a surviving example of this 2" gauge model. If anyone knows where there is one....


All this begged a question: could the engine repeat this feat in modern times? On Sunday, 17th April 2021, the stage was set in a very different world of space travel, atomic energy and the Internet. (When Mr Jubb built this Atlantic, the Bleriot monoplane was the hottest thing in aviation. On this day in 2021, in the small hours of the very next morning, a tiny electric helicopter became the first aircraft to fly in the skies of another planet).


Much fettling of cylinder packing and the addition of a second, vernier valve to the meths feed line ensured that a good fire could be maintained with less risk of the 'flare - ups' that had marred earlier testing. The addition of recently acquired wood bodied coaching stock gave a substantial but free running load.



So the stage was set. The boiler was topped off with about 400ml of distilled water through the safety valve, the level about 1/4" the top. (There's no pump or clack on this loco). The moment the fire was lit the wind became gusty and it seemed too much for the Smithies boiler arrangement, but despite considerable fluttering of the flame it kept going. Note the electric fan at the chimney - this is a self contained centrifigal fan with speed control and Lipo battery - I really don't know how Mr Jubb got the fire going by simply opening the smokebox door!


Steam raising takes about 20 mins when pressure creeps up to around 40 psi, where the safety valve begins to feather. Time to go! Initially there's a lot of water ejected from the chimney (No drain cocks in 1911!), but soon the engine starts to 'bite' with a clear 2 cylinder exhaust note and visible surging on the connecting rods. After about half a lap of 'helping', the water clears and she's away! It's very hard to know how far to open the regulator on these models, because speed builds up very quickly. I've extended the regulator handle to make it easier to flick shut as the train roars past, slows, and allows me to try a less aggressive opening.


I immediately noticed that something was different because there was none of the progressive slowing that I'd had on previous runs. Even though the cylinder packing was a little tight, making the engine a little lumpy to begin with, it was clearly keen to run! A couple of stops for minor adjustments (The front bogie is senstive to track quality and derails easily) and she was away in a style I'd not seen before. I realised that she was going to keep going, and noted the time.



Minutes ticked by, and still she kept going, soon beating any previous run. 10, and then 15 minutes went by. Now I became a little nervous about water. (There's no water gauge). At 20 minutes I snapped the fuel cock in the tender shut as she came by. Even then she ran another three full laps before slowing, which says a lot about the potential for flare - ups with quantity of meths held in the open sump under the cab.


Finally she slowed to a halt, and I sent the 1904 Bing 'Sydney' (now reversibly converted to Lipo powered electric drive) out to fetch her. This is the first time I've stopped her on a run without the water going low first.


So, how did this run compare with the one in 1911? Well, in 1912 she made 63 laps of 53 feet in 18 1/2 minutes, running 3,340 feet at an average just over 2 mph. In 2021, with an easier track than Mr Jubb's, she made an estimated (I wasn't counting, so this is based on the video) 60 laps of 80 feet in 20 minutes or 4800 feet at a speed of just over 2.7 mph, equivalent to 24 scale miles at 73 mph! Is this a record for a 110 year old locomotive in completely original condition, at any scale? I can't wait to be proved wrong!


Here's the video: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bfcbsc4kn2jnmfn/V_20210424_142804_vHDR_Auto.mp4?dl=0